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Old May 09, 2007, 05:57 AM // 05:57   #1
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any watch urself spammers here?

Guys i want to hear some of ur inputs

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Old May 09, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28   #2
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I used to spam it with my Paragon. Then came the nerf, and for good reason.
On my warrior, I usually don't use it, but I would in pve if I had one more skill slot.
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Old May 09, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20   #3
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I use it for farming. In PvE I never use tactics unless soloing, so it is a waste to bring it. In PvP, it is better to just have a paragon bring it.
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Old May 09, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #4
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I used to spam it with my Paragon. Then came the nerf, and for good reason.
On my warrior, I usually don't use it, but I would in pve if I had one more skill slot.
Nerf? What was it before?
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Old May 09, 2007, 11:48 AM // 11:48   #5
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it used to be armor+20 whatever your tactics level, only duration was variable.
Tactics 0 gave 5s duration, which was nice to refresh refrains.
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Old May 09, 2007, 01:24 PM // 13:24   #6
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Love it, party wide armor buff, can't possibly suck. When there's room it always goes in my utility slot.
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Old May 09, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31   #7
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If I'm playing in PvE and I need/want a defensive skill in my bar, it's usually my go-to skill of choice. Defensive stances means no IAS.
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Old May 09, 2007, 03:12 PM // 15:12   #8
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I use it on my warrior in PvE, since I max out Tactics anyway. I don't find strength the least bit useful, and I don't ever really use my secondary. But then I never used an IAS skill on my bar either...
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Old May 09, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44   #9
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Lover. When I deign it worthy to take a defensive skill, it's more than likely WY!.
The defensive stances are horribly self-centered, and kill your IAS/speed buff. Thusly, they suck on a warrior.
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Old May 09, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47   #10
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Love it, cheap and a great armour buff.
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Old May 09, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50   #11
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Adore this skill in HM. Don't think I've heard a party complain about an extra ~20 armor.
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Old May 09, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58   #12
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I absolutely love this skill when paired with my Ranger. Just drop down to the next break point in say Expertise, and along with the unused attribute points that otherwise would just be laying around...bam +17 or so armor. Not to mention a nice attack speed buff that flurry offers.. This is on a Hero btw, interrupter / party support.
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Old May 09, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12   #13
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Watch Yourself was, is, and remains one of my favorite warrior skills when playing defensively (Hard mode anyone?).

Why? If you're going to invest in tactics, might as well use one of the best armor buffs ever since they increased the range to shout range.

Do you have a choice of investing in Tactics? The only other choice is investing points in Strength instead of tactics for shields. Strength means no healing signet or healing, since even Lion's might hinges on tactics. Plus, using strength skills is the only reason to use strength at all given its marginal effectiveness as a primary attirbute.

Tactics has a bunch of skills like Steady Stance, Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Balanced Stance, Bonetti's Defense, Shield Stance, Shields Up! that are highly conditional but worth it.
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If you're not going to invest in tactics, strength skills are useful such as flail, bull's strike, counterattack, Dolyak signet (sometimes), Griffon's sweep, rush, flourish, signet of stamina (running), sprint, enraging charge.

But if Healing is going to be involved, healing signet and Lion's might both hinge on tactics. And tactics means I bring watch Yourself.
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Old May 09, 2007, 09:12 PM // 21:12   #14
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Think I've played maybe one PvE warrior bar in 24 months that didn't include WY.
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Old May 09, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37   #15
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Almost the time when I play my standart warrior, great for me and my whole party. Its been mention, I dont think people mind +20 armor.
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Old May 10, 2007, 01:43 AM // 01:43   #16
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Axe warrior, Sword warrior..... Watch Yourself has always been on my bar
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Old May 10, 2007, 02:13 AM // 02:13   #17
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"Watch Yourself" is always on my bar, (for a warrior, and if I am not using a hammer) as I am a heavy PvE player, and many of the "high end" areas have heavy base damage and elemental damage. +20 Armor never hurt anyone, and the 4 Adren isn't too hard to fill. When it comes to "Watch Yourself," this is probably my favorite bar. (PvE, of course)

[skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Furious Axe[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] Sunspear Rebirth Signet
16 (12 + 1 + 3) Axe Mastery
11 (10 + 1) Tactics
9 (8 + 1) Strength

As for a sword alternative, this is also a pretty fun bar, though I've been using Crippling Slash ever since the addition of bleeding.

[skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Soldier's Stance[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill] Sunspear Rebirth Signet
16 (12 + 1 + 3) Swordsmanship
12 (11 + 1) Tactics
7 (6 + 1) Strength

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Old May 10, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26   #18
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yes im in love with it, a key skill in one of my most used builds X_x

[skill]Soldier's Stance[/skill] [skill]Dismember[/skill] [skill]Agonizing Chop[/skill] [skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill] [skill]Soldier's Strike[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] rez
sorry Risa did not mean to copy your build great minds think alike X_x
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Old May 10, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39   #19
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i like this build for some reason:

"Watch Yourself!"
Healing Signet
Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Cyclone Axe
Flail
Dash
Rez in hard mode | Signet of Malice in easy mode

relieves pressure on monks ; partywide buff ; great damage ; IAS+cancel

it's decent and it's my default axe build.

WY is great. Just great. o btw, i always run a 12,10,8 axe,tactics,strength split. =]

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Old May 10, 2007, 03:28 AM // 03:28   #20
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it used to be armor+20 whatever your tactics level, only duration was variable.
Tactics 0 gave 5s duration, which was nice to refresh refrains.
Holy crap and I already thought it was awesome enough
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