May 09, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Paris, France
Guild: We eat pancakes [Yumy]
Profession: Me/
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I used to spam it with my Paragon. Then came the nerf, and for good reason.
On my warrior, I usually don't use it, but I would in pve if I had one more skill slot.
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May 09, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: PA
Guild: Us Are Not [leet]
Profession: W/
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I use it for farming. In PvE I never use tactics unless soloing, so it is a waste to bring it. In PvP, it is better to just have a paragon bring it.
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May 09, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13
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#4
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Utaku
I used to spam it with my Paragon. Then came the nerf, and for good reason.
On my warrior, I usually don't use it, but I would in pve if I had one more skill slot.
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Nerf? What was it before?
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May 09, 2007, 11:48 AM // 11:48
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#5
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Paris, France
Guild: We eat pancakes [Yumy]
Profession: Me/
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it used to be armor+20 whatever your tactics level, only duration was variable.
Tactics 0 gave 5s duration, which was nice to refresh refrains.
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May 09, 2007, 01:24 PM // 13:24
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#6
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]
Profession: W/Mo
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Love it, party wide armor buff, can't possibly suck. When there's room it always goes in my utility slot.
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May 09, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31
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#7
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: R/
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If I'm playing in PvE and I need/want a defensive skill in my bar, it's usually my go-to skill of choice. Defensive stances means no IAS.
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May 09, 2007, 03:12 PM // 15:12
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#8
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Ascalonian Squire
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I use it on my warrior in PvE, since I max out Tactics anyway. I don't find strength the least bit useful, and I don't ever really use my secondary. But then I never used an IAS skill on my bar either...
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May 09, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Lover. When I deign it worthy to take a defensive skill, it's more than likely WY!.
The defensive stances are horribly self-centered, and kill your IAS/speed buff. Thusly, they suck on a warrior.
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May 09, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47
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#10
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Zookeeper
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader
Guild: ҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&#
Profession: N/E
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Love it, cheap and a great armour buff.
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May 09, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50
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Awaken from hiatus.
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Riding the spiral.
Guild: No Fun Allowed [Vdya]
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Adore this skill in HM. Don't think I've heard a party complain about an extra ~20 armor.
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May 09, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58
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#12
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: Mo/
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I absolutely love this skill when paired with my Ranger. Just drop down to the next break point in say Expertise, and along with the unused attribute points that otherwise would just be laying around...bam +17 or so armor. Not to mention a nice attack speed buff that flurry offers.. This is on a Hero btw, interrupter / party support.
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May 09, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12
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#13
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: May 2005
Location: in the midline
Profession: E/Mo
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Watch Yourself was, is, and remains one of my favorite warrior skills when playing defensively (Hard mode anyone?).
Why? If you're going to invest in tactics, might as well use one of the best armor buffs ever since they increased the range to shout range.
Do you have a choice of investing in Tactics? The only other choice is investing points in Strength instead of tactics for shields. Strength means no healing signet or healing, since even Lion's might hinges on tactics. Plus, using strength skills is the only reason to use strength at all given its marginal effectiveness as a primary attirbute.
Tactics has a bunch of skills like Steady Stance, Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Balanced Stance, Bonetti's Defense, Shield Stance, Shields Up! that are highly conditional but worth it.
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If you're not going to invest in tactics, strength skills are useful such as flail, bull's strike, counterattack, Dolyak signet (sometimes), Griffon's sweep, rush, flourish, signet of stamina (running), sprint, enraging charge.
But if Healing is going to be involved, healing signet and Lion's might both hinge on tactics. And tactics means I bring watch Yourself.
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May 09, 2007, 09:12 PM // 21:12
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#14
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Did I hear 7 heroes?
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)
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Think I've played maybe one PvE warrior bar in 24 months that didn't include WY.
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May 09, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37
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#15
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Canada! eh!
Guild: ~none~
Profession: W/Me
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Almost the time when I play my standart warrior, great for me and my whole party. Its been mention, I dont think people mind +20 armor.
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May 10, 2007, 01:43 AM // 01:43
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#16
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GW Retiree
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: Sg Unknown [KATE]
Profession: W/
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Axe warrior, Sword warrior..... Watch Yourself has always been on my bar
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May 10, 2007, 02:13 AM // 02:13
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#17
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: The Nights Watch [Crow]
Profession: Mo/
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"Watch Yourself" is always on my bar, (for a warrior, and if I am not using a hammer) as I am a heavy PvE player, and many of the "high end" areas have heavy base damage and elemental damage. +20 Armor never hurt anyone, and the 4 Adren isn't too hard to fill. When it comes to "Watch Yourself," this is probably my favorite bar. (PvE, of course)
[skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Furious Axe[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] Sunspear Rebirth Signet
16 (12 + 1 + 3) Axe Mastery
11 (10 + 1) Tactics
9 (8 + 1) Strength
As for a sword alternative, this is also a pretty fun bar, though I've been using Crippling Slash ever since the addition of bleeding.
[skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Soldier's Stance[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill] Sunspear Rebirth Signet
16 (12 + 1 + 3) Swordsmanship
12 (11 + 1) Tactics
7 (6 + 1) Strength
Last edited by Risa; May 10, 2007 at 02:22 AM // 02:22..
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May 10, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26
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#18
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2007
Profession: N/
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yes im in love with it, a key skill in one of my most used builds X_x
[skill]Soldier's Stance[/skill] [skill]Dismember[/skill] [skill]Agonizing Chop[/skill] [skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill] [skill]Soldier's Strike[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] rez
sorry Risa did not mean to copy your build great minds think alike X_x
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May 10, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39
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#19
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ascalon Arena
Guild: Zero I Hour [ZH]
Profession: D/N
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i like this build for some reason:
"Watch Yourself!"
Healing Signet
Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Cyclone Axe
Flail
Dash
Rez in hard mode | Signet of Malice in easy mode
relieves pressure on monks ; partywide buff ; great damage ; IAS+cancel
it's decent and it's my default axe build.
WY is great. Just great. o btw, i always run a 12,10,8 axe,tactics,strength split. =]
~Polynikes
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May 10, 2007, 03:28 AM // 03:28
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#20
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Utaku
it used to be armor+20 whatever your tactics level, only duration was variable.
Tactics 0 gave 5s duration, which was nice to refresh refrains.
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Holy crap and I already thought it was awesome enough
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